♥ Born Again DAYS' Drake Hogestyn Talks About The Rebirth Of John Black His Pairing With Deidre Hall And The Woman He Can't Live Without...
In A League Of His Own:
While his DAYS character often suffers identity crises, Drake Hogestyn always knows who he is.
He is daytime's master quick-change artist, an actor who's endured a never-ending flux of new names and identities during his seven-year stint on DAYS OF OUR LIVES. "All this without therapy," laughs Drake Hogestyn, who debuted as "The Pawn" back in 1986 and has since answered to John Black, Roman Brady, John Stevens, Forrest Alamain and, coming nearly full circle, John Black - again.
"The character has changed a lot from when I first came on the show," he continues, that assessment making the actor a master of understatement as well. "He's gone from being a rough and tumble guy to, all of a sudden, a Donald Trump-type character, which I don't really think suits him well or makes him feel comfortable. I want to see him toughen up."
"John's turned into a very emotional character," continues Hogestyn. "I try not to let him wear it on his sleeve around people. I like private moments where I can indicate his feelings, when he's by himself. Soap opera is a very emotional format. If the writers find an actor who can hit those beats, they'll write a lot for you, and that changes the shape of the character quite a bit. I mean, I don't want to be the person who goes around and sobs every day on the show. It's not good for a 'manly man,'" he jokes in his deepest voice.
The biggest turning point for Hogestyn came in 1991 when DAYS' producers approached him with a blockbuster idea: bringing back Deidre Hall as Marlena and Wayne Northrop as the real Roman Brady. Hogestyn, who was playing Roman at the time, insists he wasn't threatened by the possibility of his predecessor's return. He'd just signed a new multi-year pact with DAYS and felt his position was secure. From an acting standpoint, Northrop's return even intrigued him.
"I'd wake up some mornings and think, 'Would it behoove me to lose the character of Roman, after playing him for five-plus years?'" says the actor, who realized the move would remove him from his prominent position in the Brady family. "Family is a very important part of our core here; losing Roman would take Kayla away, Kimberly away, Bo away, the cop shop away..." he says. "As I started peeling off the layers, I started thinking it would be a challenge, and very interesting."
"I'd be the man without a name again, and we'd start from scratch," he adds. (When his character first appeared on the show, he had amnesia so he made up the name John Black.) (OOPS! This is wrong. "The Pawn" wandered into a soup kitchen and met a man named Brother Francis and asked him about a job. Brother Francis asked him what his name was but he couldn't remember. Lucky for him, Brother Francis was called away and The Pawn took this opportunity to find a Vietnam War memorial plaque on the wall and decided that he'd claim the first name on the plaque as his own - this name was John Black. So clearly, John didn't make up the name John Black like this article states.) "Either the audience would bite on it or say, 'Okay, enough is enough.' Then the writers would set the character of John Black adrift, and I'd just go back to waiting tables or whatever it takes."
In retrospect, the move turned out to be a bonanza: Hogestyn has been enjoying front-burner storyline action ever since. "I've been really lucky," he admits modestly. "Since (Hall and Northrop) came back (in the summer of 1991) - aside from the Mayan stuff, which I thought was kind of out of left field - I've pretty much gotten into the real soap opera stuff, starting with the death of Isabella (Staci Greason). Next to my first five months on the show as The Pawn/John Black/Roman, that was one of my favorite storylines," he says. "It was foolproof to begin with. It didn't matter what they wrote. The girl was going to die. The emotions were raw and real."
During the six weeks in which that poignant story was told, Hogestyn believes John and Isabella became "very, very strong and riveting characters. It was something I wanted to watch. By the same token, an interesting thing evolved. People who were never sold on John Black and Isabella...all of a sudden became John and Isabella fans."
The story became so powerful that Hogestyn wondered how it could be topped. The answer materialized when James Reilly became a Co-Headwriter (with Sheri Anderson, who has since left) and decided to take another look at the John/Roman/Marlena triangle. "When Deidre Hall first came back, viewers' response was pro-John and Marlena. They were going to do the story, then it got nipped in the bud," says Hogestyn, citing the constant change of writers during that period as the reason. "There were too many cooks in the kitchen, and they each had their own ideas. That's when the story should have been told. It could have written itself. But instead, John, Isabella and their baby, and Roman and Marlena all went walking off into the sunset in opposite directions. Now we're back to it a year-and-a-half later, but it's picking up steam."
The overnight revival of John and Marlena, however, sometimes has made it difficult for Hogestyn to remain true to his character. He particularly remembers the scene in which they were on the pier reminiscing about Marlena's return to Salem, when "out of the blue" John professed his love.
"The way it was written, there was no mention of Isabella. It was just, 'I've always loved you,'" says Hogestyn, noting that with the help of producers Francesca James and Tom Langan, the scene was rewritten. He recalls that impassioned speech vividly. "John said, 'Isabella knew me so well. She knew I would be lost and wandering around. She also knew that you and I shared a love so rare and indestructible. That's why she asked you to keep an eye on me.' That included Isabella, and almost took a lot of the responsibility off John for moving into a storyline that fast and with that much heat, right away."
Tossing another woman - Rebecca (Dani Minnick) - into John's bed may have spiced up the pot for viewers, but not for the actor. "I can't justify that. I don't think John would do that. I've discussed this upstairs," says Hogestyn, referring to the producers at DAYS.
"I can understand going back to a first love. Marlena really pulled John through a hole in the wall when he was out there looking for something, grasping at straws. A very strong bond was formed that turned into love. With children and everything else, that has obviously tightened," he notes. "But to fool himself into thinking he can dive into another relationship to forget something else...John's core person would not do that."
Hogestyn believes John's relationship with Rebecca not only taints his character but also sends out a bad message. "I'm not saying I'm making any social statements, but in this day and age of safe sex, monogamous relationships, and not just using someone, there is a responsibility there," he says. "There is a responsibility to my character also that I've voiced throughout the years. I really am passionate about who I bring to the screen. When I see things going against my grain, it's difficult to play."
Material like this may be one reason Hogestyn wishes his children would not tune in to see his daytime antics. "I prefer that they don't watch, but they do see the show," he says. "My little four-year-old, Alexandra, knows John Black. She goes to preschool from nine to twelve. When she comes home, it's DAYS OF OUR LIVES time, and she wants to see me. If I'm kissing other women, she'll turn to my wife, Victoria, and say 'Yukkk!'"
"When I was trapped in the pit with Marlena, had beams on top of me and was all torn up, she saw it on television and wanted to call Daddy," he continues. "So Victoria called my dressing room for her. I was there and picked up the phone. Alex said, 'Daddy, are you okay?' I said, 'Yes, pumpkin. I'm fine.' Then she asked, 'Where are you?' I said, 'In my dressing room,' and she went, 'Boy, it sure is a mess!'"
"Whitney, who's seven now, knows what's going on, too," Hogestyn continues. "Rachael and Ben, the older kids, know what it's all about...especially Rachael. All the kids at school watch."
"My wife hears it, too. It doesn't matter where she goes - people are saying, 'Boy did Drake have a scene with...WOW!' I don't believe my wife wants to hear that...But the spirit of our marriage is very strong. We're inseparable friends," he says. "Besides, work is work, and home is home. I treat it like a job. When I'm home, it's just us and the kids doing whatever we're doing."
As far as career aspirations, Hogestyn, who claims he "couldn't be luckier or happier," simply says, "I never chose to be an actor to begin with. It just happened. If I'd known what it was all about, I wouldn't have been in it."
He is referring to the now well-known fact that he was a minor league baseball player with the New York Yankees when he decided to enter an essay contest - sponsored by Columbia Pictures Television - about why he wanted to head for Hollywood and become a star. (Please Note: The word "Columbia Pictures" was changed to "Columbia Pictures Television" in several places in this article to keep consistency throughout our website. We always refrain from using short-cuts or abbreviations, even though the magazine chose to do this for space constraints.) Of the fifty-thousand applicants, Hogestyn was among thirty chosen to participate in an intensive three-month training program, and one of five to land a contract. (OOPS! This is wrong. This should say that Drake was one "of the seventy-five-thousand applicants" not "of the fifty-thousand applicants" like the reporter has said in this article.) He earned his SAG card from the one line he delivered to Kim Basinger on the television series FROM HERE TO ETERNITY. In 1982 he was cast in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS. When that series folded in 1983, he and Richard Dean Anderson (Ex-Jeff Webber, GENERAL HOSPITAL; he also starred in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS) were up for the much-talked-about pilot GENERATION. (Please Note: The words "SEVEN BRIDES" were changed to "SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS" in several places in this article to keep consistency throughout our website. We always refrain from using short-cuts or abbreviations, even though the magazine chose to do this for space constraints.) (Despite the West Coast hype, the show never made it to a primetime series slot.) Whoever didn't get the role would get another series, MACGYVER.
While Hogestyn didn't get the break that time, he did finally get lucky in January 1986 when he auditioned for a guest spot on CRAZY LIKE A FOX. Doris Sabbagh, DAYS' casting director, spotted him and thought he would make a great "Pawn." Little did she know he would also make a great Roman, and John, and...
Hogestyn admits there have been times during his years on DAYS when he's thought about packing it all in, heading back to his native Indiana and leading a simpler life. "There's a lake in Indiana..." he muses. "It's got this little general store nearby and a tiny marina that fixes little open-engine bass boats. There's a nice rolling hill where I could bring in some horses..." Realistically, though, Hogestyn knows he will be an actor until he retires. "I enjoy what I do immensely. I put my heart and soul into it, and I'm constantly working on it," he says. "I want people out there watching the show in Oregon or Iowa or ironing clothes in North Dakota to burn some shirts when they're watching my three-minute scenes," he adds. "I want my point of view to come through. I want them to pick up the phone afterward, call Ethel, and say, 'Did you see that?'"
Even if he had never written the essay that got him to Hollywood, Hogestyn insists he has the insight to know exactly where he'd be today - both professionally and personally. "I had two different options," he says. "One was dental school at Tufts University in Boston; the other was chiropractic school in Logan, St. Louis." (OOPS! This is wrong. Typo alert! This should say "Logan School of Chiropractic near St. Louis," not "chiropractic school in Logan, St. Louis.") Personally, he's certain his life could only have followed the path it did: marriage to his high school sweetheart, Victoria Post. "If it hadn't happened yet, I'd still be single. I'd still be waiting. It would have been one of those stories where, 'Well, they got married when she was sixty-nine and he was seventy-three.'"
Despite Hogestyn's deep conviction regarding his marital destiny, he admits to sometimes harboring thoughts in his sleep about losing it all. "I have a recurring dream that she leaves me," he confides. "It's the same dream over and over. It's so real and it's so sad. I hate this dream, but it's so nice to look over, see Victoria, and know, 'Oh, you're here,'" he adds softly. "It's an incredible feeling."
Janet Di Lauro, SOAP OPERA WEEKLY, 5/4/93
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